Oral history interview with Jarle Simensen by Barbara Wahlberg. Simensen commences the interview with an account of his involvement with the Norwegian National Students Union and its commitment to a solidarity campaign against the Apartheid government. Several South African students who lived in exile in Norway are discussed, including Beukes. Simensen reveals how popular belief among students in 1960 was that apartheid would crumble in five years and explains how attention was centred on succession planning. The interview turns to his meeting with Luthuli in Oslo and the impression he made when giving his acceptance speech in Zulu dress. Also discussed is the role of traditional chiefs in South Africa. Comparisons are drawn between Luthuli and other Nobel Peace Prize winners. The significance of education and educating the youth about leadership is a key topic during the interview. | Guy, Jeff; Simensen, Jarle; Wahlberg, Barbara; Luthuli, Chief Albert; Buthelezi, Mangosuthu; Jahn, Gunnar; Couper, Scott; Mgamane, Isaac; Ngubane, Jordan; Reddy, Freddy | Luthuli Museum: Barbara Wahlberg
